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Dressing, Dressing, Who’s Got the Dressing?

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By Gini Rainey

I just thought life couldn’t get more hectic last month.  I was terribly wrong.  So once again my Guest Writer has come to my rescue and emailed me another blog entry.  Once again, kudos and deeply felt appreciation to you, my dear Guest!

Nearly everyone who reads this will have partaken in one of the two scheduled times in which they can enjoy dressing or stuffing in 2018.  Yes, we all know that some folks will make dressing at other times of the year to serve with chicken, but this is an odd behavior and should be considered suspect.  Dressing/Stuffing, like canned cranberry sauce, was meant to be consumed during The Holiday Season, officially from Thanksgiving through New Year.  So let’s talk about both the different ways that we enjoy this dish. Perhaps you’ll want to make the same thing for Christmas as you had for Thanksgiving, but perhaps you’ll decide to try something different.

We won’t rehash the “dressing or stuffing” debate; that’s been thoroughly plumbed by other publications.  No matter how you make it, the terms refer to a savory mixture of starch (bread, cornbread, rice or wild rice) with vegetables and often a meat, such as sausage or oysters.  Its mixture of onion, celery, and spices provide a fragrant offset to the relatively bland poultry.   According to The History Channel, the term “dressing” came into use in the South in the late 1800s, because “stuffing” seemed too, ummm, forceful for proper Southern Ladies to utter.  This was at the same time that “white meat” and “dark meat” came into use for what had always been referred to as thighs, legs, and breasts. One has to be careful saying things like that.

Whether you make “stuffing” (for cooking inside the turkey) or “dressing,” which is cooked by itself, depends on geographic and cultural factors.  Southerners make “dressing,” usually with a (corn)bread base, because cornbread was a staple.  In the north and west, the savory starch dish is cooked inside the turkey and called “stuffing,” but can be made from a wider variety of ingredients.   The Midwest is a hodgepodge of the two.  There are other regional variations – in parts of the Northeast, the stuffing takes the consistency of a paté with a life of its own.  In New Mexico, dressing may contain torn tortillas and chiles.

I would like to share two (really, three) different approaches to dressing.  Both of these recipes were meant to be cooked in a casserole dish or bowl; cooking inside the bird requires a dryer mixture, as it would be basted with the poultry juices while cooking.  Both of the recipes are from my family – one from East Texas, the other from Southern Minnesota.  And they’re very different!

Let’s start with what most of us from this area know.  This recipe is the quintessential Southern cornbread dressing.  It is a Southern family recipe that goes back to the 1800s.  For a good traditional cornbread dressing base, you won’t go wrong with:

2 cups chopped onions

2 cups chopped celery

1/2 cup butter

7 cups finely crumbled cornbread (one skillet)

1 tablespoon salt

2 teaspoons freshly ground black pepper

1 tablespoon dried sage

chicken broth

4 large eggs, beaten

Sauté onions and celery in butter until tender.  Add crumbled cornbread to a large mixing bowl; add the cooked onions, celery, and butter, then salt, pepper, sage, and seasoning.  Mix  thoroughly. Add chicken broth to make a very moist mixture, then stir in the eggs and scrape the dressing into a large greased baking pan or dish.  Bake at 400º F until dressing is nicely browned, about 30-40 minutes

An excellent variation of this can be made by adding 1 lb browned breakfast sausage (I put the grease and all into the mix) and four chopped apples into the vegetables – don’t cook the apples as long as the onions and celery because you want them to be a bit crunchy.  I’ve gotten rave reviews at family gatherings for this version.

And now for a different take on dressing, let’s look at one from the Midwest that’s based on wild rice.  This recipe comes from a Minnesota family, and has been a staple at their gatherings for generations.  The rice, mushrooms and onions combine to make a smooth, savory counterpoint to either baked turkey or ham.  Try it as a second dressing – you’ll be a convert!

1 cup wild rice (support Native American industry and buy the type that’s harvested by hand)

3 cups chicken broth

1 cup diced celery

2/3 cup minced onion

1/2 cup butter or margarine, melted

1/2 pound mushrooms, sliced

1/3 teaspoon salt

1/4 teaspoon sage

1/4 teaspoon thyme

Rinse wild rice in several changes of hot tap water.   Bring the wild rice and chicken broth to a boil. Reduce heat and cover, simmering until the wild rice has absorbed the broth, about 20 minutes.  Fluff with a fork and let cool.  In a large pan over medium heat, melt butter. Sauté celery, onions, and mushrooms for 2-3 minutes until tender.  Stir in the rice, salt, sage, and thyme. Turn into a casserole pan and cook at 350 F. for an hour.

Whichever way you enjoy your dressing/stuffing, I hope you have a wonderful Holiday Season!

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Holiday Traditions Often Feature Locally Produced Goodies


It’s that time again – time for the holidays, and with this time of year comes all of our favorite foods and traditions. Here are a few of our locals’ favorites.

Greenberg Smoked Turkey

A legend in its history, and a tradition for many is for a Greenberg Turkey to be on their Thanksgiving table. Just driving by the Greenberg Turkey plant this time of year – with the smoke rolling out of the buildings – will have your mouth watering as you smell that heavenly, smoked turkey scent.

One taste and you’ll understand why so many people make a Greenberg Smoked Turkey the center of their holiday celebrations.

greenberg-smoked-turkey-tyler-txFrom their website, Sam Greenberg said, “For 70 years our family has slow smoked turkey over hickory fires for an unmatched flavor. Then we ship them fully cooked and ready to eat. All you have to do is slice it and enjoy. When you serve Greenberg Smoked Turkey, you’re sharing in an East Texas family tradition that spans four generations. It all started when my grandfather began smoking turkeys for family and friends in a corner of his dairy barn. Word spread about his delicious gifts, and by the 1940’s my father fulfilled the family’s first official order – an unsolicited request from 100 miles away in Dallas. Not much has changed since those days. We still smoke turkeys the way my grandfather did – seasoned with our family spice recipe and slow-cooked over a hickory fire. Around 200,000 customers make us a part of their holiday season each year.”

Turkeys are available from 6 pounds (feeds 12 to 18 people) all the way to 15 pounds (feeds 30-45 people), and range from $33.40-79.40 each. A rule of thumb for size is a third to half a pound per person for average eaters. The average size of turkeys is between 8 and 10 pounds. They ask that you order early to ensure that the size of your choice is available. Closer to the holiday’s sizes of turkeys available may become limited.

Whether you are serving a Greenberg Smoked Turkey at your own table or sending them as gifts to family and friends, you can place your order online or drop by their office Monday-Friday, 8:30am-5pm.

Also, on the website, there are a few recipes in case you have leftovers, including a favorite in my family, the Greenberg Smoked Turkey and Andouille Sausage Gumbo.

Greenberg will ship nationwide. The office and plant are located at 221 McMurrey Dr., Tyler. For more info and to order online go to or call (903) 595-0725.

National Projects PhotographerHebert’s Specialty Meats

Hebert’s (pronounced A Bears) is the home of the original deboned, stuffed poultry, and is owned and operated by true Cajuns. Their Cajun market has developed unique seasonings, marinades, stuffings, and cooking processes to produce wonderfully delicious products. They have all the Cajun favorites: gourmet Turducken, Andouille sausage, etouffee, crawfish pie, and much more.

Hebert’s starts with a selection of the finest products available. The timely combination of cooking and seasoning creates the authentic Cajun flavor, which until now, was found only in South Louisiana. Their goal is to provide customers with a consistent, high-quality product and a true Cajun flavor. Hebert’s has been in business since 1984, with the original store in Maurice, Louisiana (just south of Lafayette). After just one taste you will understand why.

turducken-heberts-specialty-meats-tyler-lindale-txThis time of year, Herbert’s specializes in something unique- Turducken. A Turducken is a completely deboned turkey that is stuffed with a boneless duck plus a whole deboned chicken. Then a delicious cornbread dressing and pork stuffing are added between each layer to separate each poultry. Special seasonings are sprinkled over and into the entire product; then the Turducken is vacuum sealed, forcing the seasonings into the product, enhancing flavors and freshness.

Herbert’s does all the work for you so all you have to do is put it in the oven. Variations include Turducken with Chicken Sausage, Jalapeno Chicken Sausage Turducken, and a Turken – a traditional Turducken without the duck meat and chicken. They are available in a couple of sizes, but normal ones weight 8 to 10 pounds and feeds 12 (or 6 hungry Cajuns)

Herbert’s also sells smoked hams, Boudin, sausage, crawfish pies, deboned stuffed chickens, deboned stuffed turkeys, gumbo, etouffee, kabobs, and their custom created sauces, spices, and rubs. They also sell fine cut steaks that are ready to throw on the grill after defrosting. Their roasts are stuffed with onion, bell pepper,and garlic, and are oven ready after defrosting, too.

Variety is key here and Herbert’s has something different for your holiday dinners. The deboned chickens or turkeys have all the bones except for the wing tip and the two small bones in the wing. They are then stuffed with three pounds of a delicious combination of ingredients. They come ready for the oven, either fresh or frozen. You can choose ten different stuffings: alligator and rice dressing*, broccoli and cheese dressing*, traditional cornbread dressing*, jalapeno cornbread and crawfish dressing*, crawfish and rice dressing*, eggplant and brown rice dressing*, pork stuffing*, rice dressing*, shrimp and rice dressing*, or boudin. Deboned turkeys are available too, noted with an asterisk, plus they also offer a duck dressing.

Herbert’s has several locations in East Texas. The Lindale market is located at 2304 S. Main St., and in Longview, you can find them at 1301 Judson Rd.

For more info and to see their menu go to, e-mail, or call (903)247-MEAT (6328).

stanleys-smoked-turkey-tyler-tx-bbqStanley’s Famous Bar-B-Q

Stanley’s Famous Bar-B-Q is smokin’! Stanley’s – well-known for their pecan smoked meats such as their perfect brisket, baby back ribs, turkey, chicken, fresh made sausage, and even pulled pork, throughout Texas – also smokes turkeys during the holidays. “We will take orders up until November 21st (the Monday of the week of Thanksgiving) and the turkeys will need to be picked up by end of business on Wednesday, November 23rd, as we are closed on Thanksgiving day. The turkeys are priced by the pound at market price and come in a variety of sizes,” said Nick Pencis, owner.

They start taking orders 2 weeks before Thanksgiving. You can place your order at the walk-up counter, call (903)593-0311, or go to

Loggins Restaurant

johnny06Pie in the sky is not just a saying – it is a description for the pies at Loggins – which are sheer heaven!

Loggins Restaurant is family-owned and has been a favorite eatery in the heart of Tyler since 1949. Originally it was a drive-in, and old pictures are located on the walls.

Offering southern-style foods on a lunch buffet, Loggins is a great place to get that “warm eating at grandma’s” feeling. Loggins has been a popular lunch spot, typically packed to the gills every day, for eons for East Texans. They are open 10:30am- 2pm Sunday-Friday (closed Saturdays). Be sure to get there early, the line is sometimes out the door. Loggins has different menu items daily on the buffet.

a1ab3793ede2262a3b91377a7729eb8fSouthern style foods are their mainstay on the buffet (and their fried chicken is the best we’ve found), but their pies have become legendary as well. Some have described the pies as “best pies in the world,” and being that their restaurant is only a buffet, you can sample as many different kinds as you like. All are made fresh daily with old time recipes passed down for generations. Typical most days is a delicious looking array of pies to choose from, including cherry, apple, cheesecake, coconut, and lemon meringue. The variety available changes often.

During the holidays, you can get whole pies to go too. Be sure to call a day ahead.

Loggins is owned by Jerry and Lyana Loggins, who offer excellent service to the folks of East Texas. They are also Johnny Football’s grandparents and huge Aggie fans.

Loggins is located at 137 S. Glenwood Blvd., in Tyler. For more info call (903)595-5022 or go to

If you go there more than once, it is likely that the staff (and some patrons) will remember your name. It is just that kinda place.

Village Bakery

The Village Bakery, owned by Bettie Smith, has been a Tyler tradition for more than 60 years, baking up goodies since 1948 in the Bergfeld Center in Tyler. “Generations of families have enjoyed our famous gingerbread men, Easter petit fours, and Thanksgiving treats. Custom cakes have been a special part of many birthdays, weddings, and family occasions.”

Their homemade and hand decorated gingerbread men and women are a tradition among a lot of locals. “I have lived in Tyler most of my 46 years, and Village Bakery is a place we have enjoyed since childhood. I had to have a gingerbread cookie whenever my mom would take me there as a child. For special occasions Village Bakery’s cakes are amazing, both in presentation and melt in your mouth,” said Libby McMann.

village-bakery-tyler-tx“My favorite changes with the seasons: summer favorite has to be strawberry cake, for fall I crave Italian cream cake, Springtime calls for her Easter egg petit fours, and for the holidays the rolls and chocolate cake with fudge icing are to die for! Also, my son asks for the Hungarian pull apart bread every time I go. It is like sticky sweet monkey bread that is amazing with coffee or cold milk. Bettie Smith has continued her same traditions of superb quality and service throughout my lifetime. For a bakery, The Village Bakery is superb and a holiday tradition in my family,” said McMann.

“I have been a visitor to the Village Bakery for over 20 years. I was born and raised in Tyler, and every time my grandmother and I went shopping, we would stop by, and she would buy me a gingerbread man and woman,” said Kay Keele. “When my children were young, an annual quick stop for gingerbread men and women, or special cookies, was always a must too. And now, my children visit the bakery during the fall and get these traditional cute gingerbread cookies for their children,” said Keele. “It’s been a tradition for three generations!”

Village Bakery also features baked delicious pies, pastries, breads, cookies, muffins, cakes, brownies, or cupcakes as well as wedding cakes and by special arrangement, you can taste different wedding cakes by appointment.

Village Bakery is located at 111 E. 8th St., Tyler. They are open 7am-6pm Monday-Friday, and 7am-5pm on Saturday, closed Sunday. For more info call (903)592-1011 or go to

collin-st-bakery-chocolate-deluxe-fruitcake-petitesMore Traditions

A few other food traditions include:

The Annual Edom Fire Department Turkey Fry – Stop by the Edom’s fire department for its annual fundraiser where they will fry your turkey for you. An added bonus, they try to educate people on the fire hazards of frying your own turkey. They will fry the turkeys on November 23rd for pick up November 25th at the fire department. For more info call (903)852-6642 or (903)571-0334 with questions.

Let’s get a little fruity! Collin St. Bakery, located at 17044 I-20 W., in Lindale at the Hideaway Lake exit, offers their world-famous DeLuxe® Fruitcake every year. It has been a favorite since 1896 and is still baked faithfully to the original recipe. According to their website, each fruitcake is the perfect balance of native pecans (27%), shelled in Corsicana, Texas, hand-picked Golden sweet pineapple and lush papaya, ripe, red cherries from Oregon and Washington State, pure clover honey, plump golden raisins. The fruitcakes are offered in both full-cake size and petites, a perfect bite-sized morsel of their world-famous fruitcake. For the chocolate lover, the petites come dipped in delicious milk chocolate. For more info and to place an order call (903)882-9205 or go to

362afd75c62247dbc2f8d1844af89199When you start to get tired of turkey, in come the tamales! “Tyler Tortilla Factory offers homemade tamales and tortillas in Tyler, Texas. We offer tasty, delicious corn and flour tortillas, homemade chips and salsas, and our famous tamales made with the Correa family recipe. We are proud to have served delicious Mexican products to everyone in East Texas for over 35 years.” Every year, some families like to have tamales on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. At the Tyler Tortilla Factory choose from a selection of traditional pork tamales, beef tamales, chicken tamales, and their famous spinach tamales too. Ordering in advance is highly recommended. Tyler Tortilla Factory is located at 513 N. Border, Tyler. For more info and to place an order call (903)595-0873 or go to By the way, their green salsa, although very hot, is heavenly! Get a container to go.

Heartland Hams are available again at Traditions Restaurant in Tyler located at 6205 S. Broadway. To place your order call (903)534-1111 or e-mail Don’t forget to get a Pumpkin Roll too!

texas-moon-gourmet-toffee-tyler-txAnd let’s not forget dessert. There are some local sweet treats that people like to get for gifts during the holidays. Texas Moon Gourmet Toffee are some of those. They are sold at Sweet Gourmet, located at 4554 S. Broadway in the French Quarter in Tyler. “Founded more than 15 years ago, Texas Moon Gourmet Toffee was created by Gail White, who made it for friends and family during the holidays each year. After years of rave reviews from these friends, her daughter decided it would have mass appeal. Its’ crunchy texture and delicious, buttery flavor make it a favorite treat each year during the holidays.”

The toffee is only available for a couple of months before and after the holiday season, so it’s definitely a holiday commodity. You can also order it online at They offer a pretty cool gift service too where you can just select the “Create Your List” button, download the form, and send them your list of corporate gifts to fulfill for you. They can even handle all the shipping.

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