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A Conversation With Matt Magill from The Magills & Co.

By Johnny Griffith

Matt and Megan Magill love the stage. From the moment they met on stage in Oklahoma City years ago, through a decade in New York City, and a return to roots in East Texas, theirs is a marriage of music and ministry. As the “Magills” portion of The Magills & Co, the husband and wife duo take the stage singing songs of life, love, faith, failure, triumph, and trust. They like to call their music “grace music,” an honest conversation with the listener rooted in transparency, compassion, and music that flows from the lives they live together.

I sat down with Matt this month to get a better snapshot of who The Magills are and what’s coming up for them in the near future.

Johnny: When did you each start developing an interest in music, and what was really the moment when you realized this was something you wanted to do as more than just a hobby?

Matt: Ursula K. Le Guin said that “the creative adult is the child that survived.” Megan and I didn’t develop an interest in music. We just never left our childhood behind. We are children, and so making music is both hobby and vocation. It isn’t work to play. A child at play is unconcerned with things like deadlines or obligations. His/her life is an expression of possibility and joy. When considering “moments” that we realized music was something that was sacred to us, it’s more that there were moments that could have crushed us, that could have caused us to withdraw; rejection, failure, and discouragement did not have their way with us. Instead, our marriage has been a great gift to each of us – a friendship based on the mutual determination to remain open, expressive children, receptive to what we’re given and faithful to give it away to others.

Johnny: You two have a great story about meeting, whirlwind romance, marriage, and off to the Big Apple to “make it” where you persevered through struggles, eventually finding your way back to East Texas. How much of what you guys had to endure during that time period, going through the crucible of maturity and experience, influences how you approach the music today?

Matt: New York City was transformative for us because it’s an incredibly difficult environment to endure but also because we moved there two weeks after getting married. Cut off from our respective communities and parents, we had to learn who we are in light of our new city and new marriage. It changed us forever.

People often ask us, “Why would you all move (or stay) in Tyler, Texas?” or “Don’t you want to make it?” Our response is always that we’ve already made it, and we’re finally home. We dreamed dreams and lived lives in New York City and became a married couple there. We walked through “the fiery furnace of affliction” that is choosing to stay with someone who inevitably fails you from time to time. The commitment fuels the passion and as you look in the rearview mirror (which is all you have) you see that God was faithful to provide you the tools emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually that you needed to keep walking through whatever “valley of the shadow of death” you were enduring. Gratitude becomes the response, and hope springs eternal. Artists need to be critical of the status quo but hopeful about the future. Otherwise, what’s the point? If you’re not critical, then there’s no need to speak truth. If you’re not hopeful then you’re resigned to silence expecting truth won’t be received. Music is a means of truth in our lives both when it comes to us (and through us) as a cultural critique or an expression of hope. The roots of our commitment to and appreciation of this path were forged in our earliest days and darkest nights of our marriage together in NYC.

Johnny: When did you decide you wanted to make music as a duet instead of pursuing individual musical paths?

Matt: From the day I met Megan I knew my life would be better with her than without her. I feel the same way about our musical lives. I’m better when she’s beside me. Our sound is better when she sings with me. I’m a more honest performer when she’s there with me, and the reason is that I am who I am because she is my help-mate. I have become who I have become because of her help, and she has become more fully alive in that role. She is such a fully-realized woman….and probably because of how much help I needed! I HAVE to have her beside me.

Johnny: Do you primarily perform as a duet, or do you utilize a full band?

Matt: We love to play with our band. Collin Anderson (bassist and Meg’s brother), Chris Foreman (guitar), Loren Roe (drums), and Andrew Lindstrom (keys and trumpet) are brothers and are the most generous guys I know. We love to play with them as often as possible, but we also dig the intimate moments around town playing as a duo.

Johnny: Who are some of your most significant influences musically to this point?

Matt: I go through phases. When I was a kid I was crazy for Paul Simon, and I still am. Then I went nuts for The Black Crowes through high school, and then I got into southern California hippy folk rockers Gram Parsons and David Crosby type stuff, and then I got super into all the Tulsa Sound JJ Cale music and Leon Russell and Delaney and Bonnie. Currently Megan and I are huge fans of Dawes, and lately, an Ontario duo called Kacy and Clayton have caught our attention. We also really love Blitzen Trapper and their whole Portland, Oregon music scene. It’s so super rich right now (Fruit Bats, Vetiver, Blind Pilot, Laura Gibson just to name a few). And on the Gospel tip I still listen to old school stuff like Larry Norman, Andrae Crouch, and The Staple Singers – before the Christian music machine made everything sound the same. Don’t get me started on all that.

Johnny: How would you describe your musical style, and how much of your current set list is original versus cover songs?

Matt: We play songs we like to listen to as well as songs that I write. I’m a super record freak so I’m always discovering old tunes that I want other people to hear. So we learn them and play them. Learning the newest cover song that everybody is listening does not interest me at all. Megan loves the Standards (Great American Songbook) so we’re always mixing those in, and I’m always bringing the band songs from early Clapton or Spencer Davis Group or Steely Dan or Traffic or Sam Cooke. But, if people are listening, I’m apt to play more originals. So listen up, and you’ll hear them.

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Johnny: Faith is a big part of your lives and by extension, your music. Is that a deliberate decision to utilize music as a ministry tool, or would you describe it as simply an organic expression of your core selves?

Matt: We play with the same band that plays at Bethel Bible Downtown campus (above The Foundry Coffee House), so musically it’s like a “Farm to Market” band. We live lives alongside these guys; we pray with these guys; we break bread with these guys; we drink wine with these guys, so it follows that we would make music with them. Before we met, Megan and I were both trying to be something we weren’t yet. That’s what kids do. But God gave us one another to learn to become comfortable with who He created us to be and accept love. Because we have accepted that love (first from God and then from one another) we have become increasingly at ease with who we are. Whether it’s Saturday night music or Sunday morning music we are us – receiving love and giving love. We’re the same; our band is the same; our sound is the same. We’re not trying – we’re just being.

Johnny: What has been your best musical memory to this point in your journey together?

Matt: Watching the curtain close on Megan’s musicals each year fills me with so much pride. She has a musical theatre studio and teaches about 80 kids throughout the school year imbibing them with so much confidence and encouraging such profound character and emotional honesty in these kids. She writes these musicals that are just beautiful and so much work. When they come to completion it just fills my heart. As far as rock n’ roll goes, getting to play with Marc Ford of The Black Crowes, and probably the baddest guitarist ever, was THE highlight of my musical life. Period. (Not to mention he played guitar all over our new record, “Down is Up is Down” available on itunes, spotify etc.)

Johnny: What have been the biggest challenges to this point?

Matt: Megan and I don’t always agree. And mostly because I don’t want to be wrong. Our challenge is the same that any married couple working together experiences. I want her to think that I am strong and dependable and wise (the list goes on). But the trick is, when I fail her, I don’t want to admit it because it makes me feel weak and dependent and foolish. Vulnerability is the key, and it doesn’t get easier, but through the years we’re becoming more aware of our need to exhibit it. You didn’t know this was going to turn into marriage counseling, did you?

Johnny: What kind of experience are you hoping a first-timer gets when they come to a Magills concert?

Matt: On the best nights, they’ll get us talking into the mic saying things about our lives and laughing with the band. If we’re feeling good, giving grace to one another in the moment, then our music will sound great, our hips will be shaking, and I’ll probably be sweating. Those are the good nights – when the folks in our community are soaking up what we’re pouring out.

Johnny: What’s on the horizon in 2018 for you guys?

Matt: We’re thinking about taking all of our gear down to Meg’s folk’s lake house and setting up for four or five days with all the wives and kids and just working out some new tunes and writing together and living together for a while. The tribute shows at The Foundry will continue (we do four or five a year), and February 23rd-24th I’m putting on The 4th Annual Mockingbird Conference in Downtown Tyler. This year our musical guest will be Eric Earley of Blitzen Trapper. I’m a huge fan of this guy, and it will be an honor to host him in Tyler. Megan will put on another musical in May, and we’ll play all year long with the band that goes by “& Co.” on our never-ending “Stick Around Town Tour.” Why would we ever want to leave?

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Michael Morse:  All Aboard The Psychobilly Death Train

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By Johnny Griffith

The East Texas music scene is surprisingly diverse once you look past the incorrect assumption that the only two types of bands in the area are country or metal. With the plethora of musicians this area produces, though, it is sometimes hard to stand out in the crowded field of performers. This isn’t a problem Michael Morse has. Born in Tyler, raised primarily in NYC, and now living back in Tyler, Morse is a multi-instrumentalist who embraces the ART side of artist and takes you on a musical adventure of his own making every show. We recently caught up to Michael to get to know him better:

Johnny: So what is your earliest memory of music in your life?

Michael: Music has always been there. I don’t know about the “earliest,”  but I have a vivid memory of my mother putting on a record, either a Beatles or Paul McCartney solo album, and watching it spin. That was pretty magical. I was taken to the Oil Palace several times as a small child to see various country singers. Though that music didn’t stick with me, it was my first exposure to live music in general, which became very important to my life in multiple ways. 

Johnny: When did you start taking an interest in music as a hobby?

Michael: Music isn’t a hobby, it’s an essential part of life. To me, learning to play an instrument is a natural extension of enjoying music. I think, subconsciously, I always wanted to play the guitar, guitars are just flipping cool. I was too shy to express that though. At age 13, my mother told me I had to learn an instrument, any instrument. There was never any question for me about which instrument, it was always going to be the guitar. Luckily my mother had a nylon-string classical which became mine. I’m very grateful for that push. The obsession snowballed from there.

Johnny: Who were some of your early influences musically and who was an early mentor?

Michael: I have a lot of influences. A lot of typical ones like The Beatles and Bob Dylan, but also some others that may not be so typical. I feel like I have eclectic tastes, and influences can manifest in different ways. Every influence doesn’t come out in every performance. Some of my all time favorites include (but are not limited to) The Velvet Underground, Robert Johnson, Woody Guthrie, Violent Femmes, Chuck Berry, Devo, Hank Williams, The Stooges, Buddy Holly, Mississippi John Hurt, Ramones, Richard Hell & The Voidoids, T. Rex, Howlin’ Wolf, The Clash, The White Stripes, The Sonics, Cream, Cab Calloway, David Bowie, Leadbelly, Earl Scruggs, Johnny Burnette, Ukulele Ike, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The Pixies, Little Walter, The Band, solo Beatles, The Beach Boys…I could go on and on and on. I love music so much. I don’t know that I’ve ever had a real musical mentor, at least not someone I knew personally. Bob Dylan has probably provided the most inspiration and guidance in a way. He was never content to stay the same for too long. He was able to change and let his songs change with him.

Johnny: Do you have a “style” you feel you fit into?

Michael: I hope not. I’m sure people who have seen me might associate me with a specific genre or two but I try to always include variety. People tend to like to attach labels and group things together that aren’t really the same thing. I play a broad spectrum of American folk. That includes Blues, Old Time, Rock, Punk, etc. 

Johnny: Are you primarily a solo act or do you collaborate with other artists frequently?

Michael: I’m primarily solo, though not necessarily by choice. I love to play with other people though I find meeting musicians who share similar views about life/music and how to approach making it can be difficult. An unfortunate fact about musicians is that if you want to keep a band together, you need to be able to pay a band to stay. There’s not enough opportunity to make enough money for me to do that. Drummers are especially fickle. The stool that a drummer sits on is literally called a “throne”. That should tell you everything you need to know about drummers. There is a lovely freedom in playing alone though. I’m free to experiment with tempo and transitions at a whim, which you can’t do with most bands. It’s hard to find other musicians who can click with you in that way. 

Johnny: How much of a typical set is originals versus covers?

Michael: That really depends on where I’m playing and for how long. It also depends on whether or not there’s an audience, because unfortunately sometimes there isn’t one, and how they’re responding. If a crowd is not engaging, I’ll start to experiment a little more. I’ll improvise and try out new songs. It’s difficult to get people to listen to a song they don’t know but I feel it’s important for me as an artist, if that’s what I’m supposed to be, to make sure my original work at least gets a chance to be heard.

Johnny: What is your favorite cover tune to do? What is your favorite original?

Michael: I really enjoy playing early Rock’n’Roll/Rockabilly songs. Lately I’ve been stringing a bunch together in a long, fast medley I’m calling “Rockabilly Medley in E,” which features songs by Carl Perkins, Johnny Burnette, Elvis, Bo Diddley, and Buddy Holly. I may keep adding to it, till it gets to the point that I collapse at the end. My favorite original is probably a song called “Hopeless Case.” It’s a pretty simple song about realizing love is inconvenient and resisting the urge to fall into it. It builds to a Bo Diddley beat and ends somewhat abruptly, which always confuses the audience. That amuses me.

Johnny: So speaking of originals, I have to ask what was the inspiration behind “Psychobilly Death Train Blues (in A)?”

Michael: That song is really just an exercise in Rockabilly tropes. Something fun and fast.

Johnny: How was the process of making that album and what did you take from that experience moving forward?

Michael: “A Strange Thing” is more a compilation than a proper album. I was frequently asked if I had CD’s for sale at gigs, so I finally put one together. It’s a collection of some of my folkier songs recorded over a few years, that I thought might be pleasing for people seeing me in my usual acoustic setting. There’s touches of Rockabilly, Blues, even a little classic Country. 

Johnny: What can first time listeners expect from a Michael Morse show?

Michael: Energy, speed, dry humor. That stuff is always there, but on occasion I’ll add something different. I play a little banjo sometimes. I recently played a local Jazz Festival where I included a mini set of original ukulele based jazz songs. For that part of the show I performed as a character, a leftover golden age jazz crooner who somehow found himself in the 21st century. I don’t do that often.

Johnny: What was the last song you dialed up to listen to?

Michael: Probably “Hang On To Me” as performed by Cliff “Ukulele Ike” Edwards. He’s most remembered as the voice of Jiminy Cricket, but was a big star in the 20’s/30’s. He was a fireball of a performer and the best scat singer put to record. There’ a great clip of him performing the song in a color short from the 30’s in circulation. It’s sweet and silly.

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6 Miles to Mixon: Good Times Just Ahead

By Johnny Griffith

There’s a new band in town. Okay, perhaps it’s more accurate to say there is a bunch of seasoned musicians who decided to get together, start something new, and now they’re making waves on stages all over the area. 6 Miles to Mixon is a collaboration of Matt and Rick Kindle, Gary Henson, Eric Dobbins, and Roy Hufstetler that has decades of experience in various other projects from all over this hemisphere. We caught up to the band this month to find out more about them.

Johnny: How did you all individually get started in music? 

Gary: My Dad is a musician and I started going to his band’s rehearsals at around age 5 or 6. I started playing drums around age 8 or 9 and was playing gigs with my Dad by age 12. 

Rick: I’ve been singing my whole life since starting in church but my first group was a doo wop quartet! It was a blast.. that’s where I fell in love with harmonies.

Matt: I got my singing from my dad, Rick. I have been singing all my life. Got my first guitar when I was 12 and I taught myself by watching the guys in my dad’s band. I joined his band when I was 17. Also, during my junior high and high school years, I played the trumpet which helped teach me a lot about reading music and music theory. I played in various country or rock bands during my years of education. I came back to Tyler in 2012 and my dad and I joined with a few guys to form what was called Texas Rebellion. We formed 6 Miles to Mixon at the end of 2017.

Roy: 6th grade band. I played drums/percussion all the way through high school. In 9th grade, I started playing bass in orchestra and electric bass in the high school jazz band. I actually lettered in Bass for Orchestra.

Eric: My love for music started when I was nine years old and took lessons from famed guitarist Larry Stanley in Tyler. I have played professionally since age 13, with my mom as my biggest fan. She was a music major in college and supported me all the way, even driving me back and forth to gigs. Since then I’ve had the privilege to work with some amazing acts along the way on stages like Billy Bob’s Texas, Stage Door, and The Opryland Hotel in Nashville. I even did a tour of South America for American Airlines promoting a non-stop flight from DFW to Lima, Peru. 

Johnny: How did you guys meet? 

6MtM: Gary was the common ground we all shared. He played in a band with Matt and Rick, and he had also played with Eric and Roy. Gary saw some potential with this lineup so we decided to go for it. The stars aligned and 6 Miles to Mixon was born.

Johnny: What about the name? What’s the story behind 6 Miles To Mixon?

6MtM: We had been toying around with different local town names and landmarks to describe who we are and where we are from. Mixon was a town name that kept popping up. Rick was driving down the road one day and saw a sign that said “Mixon 7 (miles)” but he thought “6” was catchier. He called Matt, who liked it, so it stuck.

Johnny: So would your style be described as primarily country or do you have a more accurate description?

6MtM: We would say Country with a Rock kick, and Rock with a splash of country.  We ease people in with some Country and it’s what our fans like to dance to. We really like to kick it up with some Rock after things get pumping. It just feels natural. 

Johnny: How would you describe a typical 6 Miles show?

6MtM: Pretty high energy! We’d rather people get up and dance. Don’t sit…get up and move. We are professional musicians and singers, but it really boils down to that we are just a group of guys wanting to have a good time, and we want the crowd to have a good time with us.

We play George Strait, Keith Urban, Merle Haggard, Jason Aldean, Jon Pardi, Chris Stapleton, Garth Brooks, and many more, but we will also throw in some Tom Petty, The Eagles, Bad Company, Journey, Ed Sheeran, Prince, and some funk tunes. We play fun songs. We honor requests when possible because between all the experience in the band we have played just about everything at least once.

Johnny: Is a normal set primarily covers or do you have some originals you are working in as well?

6MtM: We primarily play covers, but we will throw in a few songs that Matt has written. We are currently playing five originals per night. We don’t wanna overwhelm people with stuff they don’t know. But it’s funny, after people have seen us a time or two, we’ll see people singing along with the originals. The self titled EP, “6 Miles to Mixon,” hit digital stores on June 19, 2019. Stream or download the songs before you come to our show for the first time or even if you have seen our show several times. We think you’re gonna like what you hear! And, when you do, it won’t be “stuff you don’t know” anymore. 

Johnny: About how many shows a month are you booking?

6MtM: We play anywhere from two to six shows per month. We want to do more, and we’d like to spread to other areas. We’ve been together for only a year and a half so we hope word will get out about us and we can get into some of these venues where people are saying we need to play. 

Johnny: Are you staying pretty local to East Texas or are you branching out of the area?

6MtM: Local right now, but we hope to spread further out.  In past bands, we have individually played all over Texas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma. 

Johnny: What are some “must see” shows coming up for the band the rest of the year?

6MtM: We like to think all of them are “must see,” but the Fireworks show at Pleasant Hill Baptist Church in Tyler on July 3rd is going to be amazing. It will be very high energy and a good all around time. If you can’t make that event, catch us whenever you can. We’d love to see you have a dancing good time out there.

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Cody Wayne: Road Warrior

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By Johnny Griffith

Cody Wayne just doesn’t know how to stop. Since we last spoke to him, almost two years ago, Cody has been on a mission to bring seriously good music to anyone who will put him on a stage. With a high energy show, one of the best bands around, and a growing list of superb originals, Wayne feels like his best days are in front of him. We sat back down with Cody this month to get an update on what’s new in his world.

Johnny: It’s been a couple of years since we last talked and it’s been a busy couple of years we’ve got to catch up on so let’s start with the band. What is the current lineup?

Cody: I am very lucky with the group of musicians that are in our current lineup. Trent Procell plays bass and is the guy who really put everything together. I’ve known him for about 10 years and I started trying to get him to play bass for me since 2011. I finally convinced him to join me and he brought in Zach Early on guitar and Tyler Williamson on drums. Vic Andrews is our fiddle, harmonica, dobro, shoe string, spoons, and pretty much he can get his hands on. Trent, Zach, and Tyler have been playing together for their entire lives and it’s amazing to watch what they can do on stage. Music has been a huge part of these guys’ lives since birth and it shows when they play. I’m very lucky and thankful to have them. 

Johnny: About how many shows a month are you guys averaging these days?

Cody: Usually we average anywhere from 10 to 15 shows a month. Like any business having a band is up and down. We’ve had times where we’ve played 20 shows in 7 days all the way from Texas to Minnesota. We’ve been very lucky for that demand for our music and we are very thankful for that. 

Johnny: What has been the most memorable gig the last couple of years?

Cody: Honestly, there have been so many amazing, landmark, and bucket list shows it’s hard to pinpoint one. One that really made me sit back and say “Man! Did we really just do that?” Was getting to open for Alan Jackson at the San Antonio Rodeo. I never sat down and thought about what we were actually doing until he got on stage and sang every song that I grew up on. I still get goosebumps thinking about it. 

Johnny: What have been the biggest challenges you and the band have dealt with since we last talked?

Cody: Being away from my/our families. The band is great and everyone gets along so well that it makes the road life a lot easier. We are all also very family-oriented and being away is hard. Family comes first and the band comes second. 

Johnny: What is the biggest thing that helps you push through the grind and sacrifice being a professional musician extracts?

Cody: Family! My beautiful wife Tamra is really the method behind the madness. She knew how to turn a hobby into a career. She also keeps the schedule full, merch stocked, social media up to date, and keeps the house running while I am gone. And that goes for all of our member’s families. It takes a lot of hard work, sacrifice, and love to keep the band moving. 

Johnny: So you’ve recently enjoyed a pretty good run on the Texas Regional Radio Report Top 100 Chart with your single “Small Town.” Tell us a little about that experience, how it feels to be a top 20 artist in Texas, sitting above some rather legendary names by the way.

Cody: I still can’t believe it honestly. Tamra and I do all of our radio promotions as well. To have our name next to the likes of Randy Rogers Band, Aaron Watson, Kevin Fowler, and all the greats is mind blowing. I honestly could never imagine that a song I wrote sitting at my kitchen table would be a Top 20 single. 

Johnny: Your next single set to release is “Remember The Lost Ones.” What inspired the song and how do you feel you being a Marine gave you a unique perspective in the writing process?

Cody: I started writing this song when I got back from Iraq. I wanted to tell a first person point of view story about the war that up until that point hadn’t been done that I knew of. It had always been from the 3rd person perspective. However, once I started writing I had an overwhelming sense of grief and selfishness. It was almost like shame because I made it back. I could tell my story. There are so many service members that don’t have a voice anymore because they gave their lives for me/us to be here and be able to write songs. So I let the song say what it felt like it wanted to say. Literally up to when I was driving to the studio the words were still changing and becoming something those who are no longer with us would be proud of. Also, I wanted the listener to see and feel this song before they heard it. From the first note of the lone dobro, to the kick drum that sounds like a distant mortar shell exploding, to the snare drum that sounds like a 5 round burst from a machine gun, I wanted the listeners to be able to close their eyes and see the dirt, smell the sweat, and hear the sounds of war and get the first person perspective that way. It’s still hard for me to sing this song but I hope it gives a voice to the ones who gave it all up. 

Johnny: You’ve got some fun shows coming up the back half of the year. Anything you’re really excited about?

Cody: Absolutely! On July 27th, we get to open for Koe Wetzel at the Great East Texas Balloon Race. He is a fellow East Texan and one of the hottest acts in Texas currently. This is a huge and professionally run event every year that does great things for our area. To have two East Texas boys playing this year is something I think we can all be proud of. Plus, we have a lot of energy that we bring and they have a lot of energy that they bring so it’s gonna be one of the biggest events of the year. 

Johnny: What’s the next big move for you and the band? New album? Tour more outside of Texas? 

Cody: We are always writing and integrating new songs into the set so we can get an idea if the people like them. My song “Fly High” is going to be in a bull riding documentary coming soon. I am always working with the USO, Boots for Troops, and The Boot Campaign, local VFWs, and other veterans organizations to help bring awareness and help for fellow service members. 

Johnny: Okay, last question: Who do you listen to when you need a break from writing or performing and just want to get lost in some music? 

Cody: My playlist usually consists of Jason Boland, The Cadillac Three, The Black Crowes, Chris LeDoux, and Trent Willmon. One day I am going to write a song with Trent Willmon – he just doesn’t know it yet. So Trent if you happen to read this let’s make it happen.

Johnny: Anything else on your mind before we wrap it up?

Cody: I want to give credit where credit is due. None of this would be possible if it wasn’t for my family. We literally do everything ourselves and I want to give them the “thank you” they deserve. They inspire the songs I write and they are the ones that help them come to life. 

To everyone who has ever come to a show, listened to a song, bought merch, or told someone about a song of ours, I want to give a huge “thank you” as well. Every tomorrow is because of the people who help today.  Thank you for the love and support and we’ll see you down the road.


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